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 Is whitebox can get reliable enough for production server ? 
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Post Is whitebox can get reliable enough for production server ?
Hi,
We have few critical Linux-based servers running on separate hardware, all PC hardware (VoIP, Router\Firewall, IRC server).

The main reason I'm considering the move to VM is to simplify software fixes/maintenance and decrease software disaster recovery time (increase up-time).

The reason I still didn't done that yet, is the hardware.
Right now the hardware I have for this machine:
CPU: i7-2600k
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68V LE (intel z68)
Memory: 4x4gb ddr3 (non-ecc, un-buffered)
Ethernet card #1: Realtek 8111E (intergrated, 1 port)
Ethernet card #2: Intel E1G42ETBLK (pci-e x16, 2 ports).
Storage controller #1: Intel RST (integrated, sata, no hw raid).
Storage media: 4x sata 7200rpm western digital 500gb (aakx).

Available expansion slots: 1 PCI-E X16, 2 PCI-E X1, 3 PCI.

I'm not sure if I can trust this PC hardware in a production environment, as a main machine running multiple, critical servers (voip, router and such).

I'm planning to add an hardware raid card, maybe the Intel RS2WC040 (cost less than $200 and should be an hardware raid).

But still the motherboard probably doesnt support vt-x and registered memory (ecc).

How critical is that? What's your suggestions?

Many thanks!


Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:54 am
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Post Re: Is whitebox can get reliable enough for production serve
I would start with 2 concerns.
1) Reliability. I have an tier 1 server and on Saturday night the MB dies. I get an email from the remote management card and 4 hours later the hardware vendor is on site with a replacement and 6 hours later we're back online.
With a whitebox I find out on Monday morning (maybe earlier :) ). I'm then off to the computer store to get replacement parts. Wait no RAID controller in stock, I'm down for an extra few days.
I describe a worst case scenario, but that's one reason I wouldn't go with a whitebox in production if I didn't have to.

2) Performance - it seems that your VM load with be CPU / network heavy and fairly low on disk. I wouldn't use the realtek NIC and would add some NIC redundancy if I could. Not that it would be common, but I wouldn't put lots of memory in a desktop MB and expect great performance. I.e. 64 GB or higher.

3) RAID - I would go hardware RAID with battery backed cache. Battery backed cache will make a huge performance difference. I'd also look at something off the HCL and relatively new if you plan to upgrade to ESXi 5.x and eventually 6.

4) VT-x - you'll need that for 64 bit VMs. I'd be surprised if it didn't support it (and more importantly you'll want to check that the CPU supports the feature. I would get a CPU without. You might get away with 32 bit VMs today, but it'll be harder and harder down the road.

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Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:09 pm
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Post Re: Is whitebox can get reliable enough for production serve
1) I'm sure branded server will be a better option but my current budget doesn't allow me to get one.

My only 2 options are:
Dedicated PC hardware for each linux server and OS running directly on the hardware, or
1 box, with a bit more reliable PC hardware and all software running on VM (ESXi).

2) Performance - I don't think I'll need more than 16/24gb, but my setup doesn't support ECC - how bad is it for production servers?

The main NIC will be Intel E1G42ET, unfortunately with LAN and RAID card, I don't have any PCI-E X8/16 free slots. still have PCIE X1 and PCI.

3) RAID - thanks, I didn't knew about the battery difference, I'll check the prices and see if its in my budget. Until now I was looking on Intel RS2WC040.

4) My system supports VT-x but not VT-d.



Many thanks!


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Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:58 am
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Post Re: Is whitebox can get reliable enough for production serve
I'm sure you'll make out fine with it. No worries about not having VT-d - that's just for VMDirectpath support.

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